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I couldn't figure out which area to post this new discussion I hope to get going in. It's scientific, yet contains information that some would call a little absurd and to avoid rhe risk of getting attacked for postig a personal experience that relates science with some unknown, i'm sticking it here, maybe i'll check through and see if I can cross post it or have it moved to the science section, if there's really not alot of good responses going of course...

Anyhoo.. Here goes. #1!

Something of interest...

One morning, quite early around 3:30 a.m., I decided to try out a particular sound file that I hadn't known the name of quite yet. I decided to test this out by laying back for five minutes on my bed with only a candle for light..then I had track playing through ear bud headphones.

(I had a new friend chatting with me online at the time, so I asked him to wait for me to report my experience immediatly after.)

As I lay back with the sound playing I was instantly thrown into a very weird state from the strange, albeit interestingly pleasant sounds. The first thing to notice was that my eyelids were fluttering madly. I couldn't stop them, and in hoping of not interrupt my empty thoughts I decided to ignore this effect.

Within my warm and aware state I noted a mildly intense rising sensation. It felt as if my entire body was lifting. (never had this experience while wide awake before).

I also noticed that my thoughts strayed slightly toward thinking about this new friend of mine, so that I made myself lightly pushed the thoughts away to stay clear.

As I experienced all sorts of strange images, there were a couple that seemed later to me to be more interesting.

Fairies, elves, gnomes and a beautiful female with long wavy brown hair started popping into my minds eye. I had no explanation for this as I did not have any reference for these sorts of images.

When the sound file finished I explained the experience to my friend online. He was surprised by the imagery at the end because, as he was thinking about me the entire time, he had been watching youtube videos with clips from a movie i'd never seen.
The movie Legend, that he had been planning to send to me..

He sent the video right away and I was really kinda freaked and shocked because the the female I saw looked EXACTLY Lily, even the same facial expression and the other characters in the film were just as I saw.

Like I said, i've never seen or heard of this movie, ever before.. so they was really quite freaky to me. (it's from the 80's starring Tom cruise, there's fairies and gnomes features throughout the entire movie...it's a Fantasy.) Sounds like remote viewing to me!

Also, I hadn't known what the file was all about untill I later found out it was, "a partial model of the average sensory reaction of the mind to the substance", of Salvia Divinorum, converted into sounds.... weeeeeeiird.


Now then what do YOU all think? I hope this has been interesting in the least to SOMEONE out there.

Thanks for listening!

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Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:47 pm
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I'm not sure what to say of this, it sounds like you were in some kind of trance. Maybe your memories of what happened when/first got jumbled etc?

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Interesting, I wouldn't know what it is either and to be honest, I'm too much of a sceptic to start believing in stuff as remote viewing

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Theboss wrote:
I'm not sure what to say of this, it sounds like you were in some kind of trance. Maybe your memories of what happened when/first got jumbled etc?

I wasn't in a trance necessarily. I was meditating, but that is a form of 'trance', as in I changed my brainwave frequencies to a lower level.

I only did this for 5 minutes, which us usually a very light meditation, not a full on trance.

I actually wrote down the scenario and kept it recorded on my computer. No chance for jumbled memories there.

Thanks for your interest!

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Einstein2.0 wrote:
Interesting, I wouldn't know what it is either and to be honest, I'm too much of a sceptic to start believing in stuff as remote viewing



You may want to check this out, this is from a highly credited, world renowned neurologist:
Michael Persinger on No More Secrets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l6VPpDublg

The science of frequency use is out there, and being used quite frequently.
Even the government (Canadian and american) train and uses people to remote view on hard to reach locations. You just have to do your research.

The use of frequencies to effect the mind and body is getting more and more advanced and known throughout the common and uncommon fields of science.

Check this out:

Frequencies Shake Viruses to Death
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkhFsv2EQzU

Just as the woman explains the mathematical model involved with the universities work...

This is taken from a page involved with the frequencies that I am using,

http://spiralstarz.com/bestsp.htm

"The internal rhythmic tempo associated with various internal states, emotional, mental, physical
are mapped. These psycho-somatic patterns are captured as hyper-dimensional geometric forms.
The complex numeric series representing the movement of this object through space-time is translated
into sound."


There's more proof of the seemingly miraculous abilities of frequencies if you scroll down on that page as well.

There was nothing there to explain how I was able to see what my friend had wanted to show me...The very video he was viewing at the exact time I was meditating with the sounds... The images were spot on to a T!


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Let me further explain myself, I do think that some of these things work and I can imagine that brain activity can be controlled to some extent via audible input. What I am skeptical of is the concept of remote viewing. Sure, there's a lot of 'evidence' but this is caused by the fact that people will report if - by some coincidence - something like this happens, but not if there is no effect.
As an example, take the Romans who prayed before going out to sea. If they made it safely then that was because of the praying and if they didn't, then that was simply forgotten.
Now the chance that something life what you explained happens when considering a population of six billion people all reporting it if they experience something like this is pretty big.
So I'd say that you already knew the concepts and by some coincidence your friend was looking at a video involving those concepts. So it was just a highly unlikely event, which does happen often due to the large amount of times in which it can happen.

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I'm watching the vid now, but just want to post what I think first. Unlike Einstein, I do believe in remote viewing and telepathy, BUT not in the form that most people think it exists. But more in the form shown here: link1, link 2

So basically, the brain is a computer and just as any other it can be manipulated and read externally, brain scans for example are "readings" and so are the two examples above.
And once a link has been made, lets imagine a cable that connects two brains, or a brain and a pc, the brain will be able to learn how to process/read and maybe even control these connections. But, I do not believe that unconnected brains are capable of doing such a thing, at most if you remove the skull and make them touch and keep them that way for a long time.

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Einstein2.0 wrote:
Let me further explain myself, I do think that some of these things work and I can imagine that brain activity can be controlled to some extent via audible input. What I am skeptical of is the concept of remote viewing. Sure, there's a lot of 'evidence' but this is caused by the fact that people will report if - by some coincidence - something like this happens, but not if there is no effect.
As an example, take the Romans who prayed before going out to sea. If they made it safely then that was because of the praying and if they didn't, then that was simply forgotten.
Now the chance that something life what you explained happens when considering a population of six billion people all reporting it if they experience something like this is pretty big.
So I'd say that you already knew the concepts and by some coincidence your friend was looking at a video involving those concepts. So it was just a highly unlikely event, which does happen often due to the large amount of times in which it can happen.


Well you'd really have to look into how often coincidence happens.
What is coincidence really?
And how can it be useful?

I find that I have had prophetic dreams.

Coincidence or not, they sometimes help me realize that I should be paying more attention to these coincidences.

I dreamt about eating at a restaurant with my boyfriend at the time, and his crazy ex girlfriend showed up.

Later a few days past, I forgot, he took me to a restaurant I'd never been to before, as we were eating, this ex showed up, which made us both very uncomfortable.
I smacked my head and was like, "Oh [$#@!]! I just saw this in a dream!"

Another time, all the way back in junior high, I had a dream about a girl I barely knew. Stevie. I was 'floating?' I'm not sure, somewhere near her window.
All I remember was seeing her in her room from a particular perspective, crying while sitting on her bed... then a woman came in the room who sat on the bed next to her and comforted her. There was no sound.

The next day at school before one of my first drama classes, I arrived in the room where there was a large group of girls in a circle. I saw Stevie in the centre crying...
I was pretty much in shock at this point...the volume of the room sort of dropped...and I asked what was going on to someone I actually knew. She told me that Stevie's mom was, "leaving".

I dreamt of what my sisters apartment would be like... I had a dream I was in her shower... then months later I was looking at her new place. ( I had no idea what it'd be like, if they'd get a condo, whatever). As she showed me around I jumped into her new shower to check it out.. then i suddenly rememberd the dream.. the room was exactly like what I saw...


The list goes on..

Coincidence or not.. It happens..
I usually get these in dreams. But that day when I listened to that sound file, I was wide awake, in a mild meditative state and listened to a track for only 10 minutes...I saw the face of a woman I have never seen in my life. There were pastel like colors of pink and green around her, than I saw the gnomes, mean and kind looking...etc.
The guy I reported back to had been seeing those very same images.

Coincidence?!

Why it shouldn't it be looked into further?

Is it coincidence that you body was created with a nose to smell? Or is it a function that can predict what food may be near by, etc.
If I've been having prophetic dreams since childhood, and a sound frequency file seemed to cause me to have a miraculous coincidence, then hell, I am a firm believer in coincidences!


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Theboss wrote:
I'm watching the vid now, but just want to post what I think first. Unlike Einstein, I do believe in remote viewing and telepathy, BUT not in the form that most people think it exists. But more in the form shown here: link1, link 2

So basically, the brain is a computer and just as any other it can be manipulated and read externally, brain scans for example are "readings" and so are the two examples above.
And once a link has been made, lets imagine a cable that connects two brains, or a brain and a pc, the brain will be able to learn how to process/read and maybe even control these connections. But, I do not believe that unconnected brains are capable of doing such a thing, at most if you remove the skull and make them touch and keep them that way for a long time.



Hey thanks those are some awesome links! I heard about this experiment before.
I think you're right. I also think our human bodies, being constructed in a crystalline fashion are like giant antennae.
"Introduction: The Electromagnetic Bases of Consciousness

There is converging evidence that consciousness associated with the cerebral volume of the human brain may be identical with or strongly correlated with complex configurations of magnetic fields whose intensities are within the picoTesla (10-12 T) range (Anninos et al, 1991; Persinger and Lavallee, 2010). In comparison, magnetic field strengths in the order of 10-10 T within galaxies and galaxy clusters (Opher et al, 2009) and (unamplified) values with upper limits in the 10-13 T range (Neronov and Vovk, 2010) for extragalactic fields have been measured or inferred. They might be considered superimposed upon cerebral values. In this paper, convergence of quantitative estimates and theoretical arguments suggest that the conditions for consciousness may be more universal than anticipated.

What Persinger is saying here is that the earth’s magnetosphere contains complex configurations very similar to the brain at roughly the same intensity as the brain. You can also find similar magnetic field strengths in other galaxies and galaxy clusters."

"We intuited that the application of very complex, weak magnetic fields would have the potential to interact with the subtle but complex neuroelectromagnetic processes associated with consciousness and the subtle nuances that define human experience."

"* Measurements of the Biofield have shown that it is highly variable and closely associated with magnetic changes of the Earth’s field."

" There is a polarity change 85% of the time around new or full moon."

http://weilerpsiblog.wordpress.com/2011 ... ic-fields/


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