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Theboss
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As most of us seem to agree, I'll spice it up a bit. What if one would transplant the brain of a person to another body. Would it be the same person? Ecample: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=2007&p=20568#p20568Of if a brain would be isolated from the body. Example2: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=2006&p=20566#p20566
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| Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:34 pm |
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Transfuse
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That can't be said, since it's impossible.
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RoadKill
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The first example isn't.
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| Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:10 pm |
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Theboss
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Both have been accomplished and those vids are the proof.
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| Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:21 pm |
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Zero
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There have been instances of people receiving organs in transplants, and then showing characteristics of the donor, no? Like an interest in a certain type of music, or hobby.
Odd.
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| Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:25 pm |
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Theboss
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Yes, exactly. That's the odd part.
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GanjaGuru
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Zero wrote: There have been instances of people receiving organs in transplants, and then showing characteristics of the donor, no? Like an interest in a certain type of music, or hobby.
Odd. I've have pieces of someone else in me right now and I haven't changed at all.... If it was true that your consciousness is altered in this way it would happen to everyone receiving transplants but it doesn't. The consciousness clearly resides in the brain and to prove this with an experiment that can be repeated everytime. Take some LSD or give it to someone and observe as the drug physically alters the brain chemistry resulting in altered consciousness. Another form of proof is the lobotomy which completely removes conscious thought that results in a non responsive catatonic state.
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Zero
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I think your personality is genetic or built up throughout your life, but is separate from your soul or consciousness or whatever
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Theboss
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And these too? They still have their own conciousness?
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| Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:09 am |
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GanjaGuru
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Zero wrote: I think your personality is genetic or built up throughout your life, but is separate from your soul or consciousness or whatever You're wrong and you can be proven wrong..... Consciousness can be altered by physical means and there is absolutely nothing but wishful thinking to suggest it is separate from the brain. All the evidence says the brain is where consciousness resides or rather is a byproduct of neurological interactions. It doesn't really matter what people believe because the above is 100% factual.... consciousness is physical not metaphysical.
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| Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:59 pm |
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nolvorite
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it's not as easy as transferring a forum SQL database to another forum lol if that's what you think
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| Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:36 pm |
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Theboss
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nolvorite wrote: it's not as easy as transferring a forum SQL database to another forum lol if that's what you think Yea, but that does not take away from the fact that it has been done 
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GanjaGuru
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Theboss wrote: nolvorite wrote: it's not as easy as transferring a forum SQL database to another forum lol if that's what you think Yea, but that does not take away from the fact that it has been done  It was done and the monkey lived to realize that the doctor [!@#$] him up and gave him a new body. The dog was clearly alert as well.... That's because both brains were preserved and kept alive.... bet if you started up a body without a head it does nothing but maybe flop if you zap the nerves. I don't know how people can't believe that the consciousness resides in the brain.
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| Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:16 pm |
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Theboss
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I do believe that it rests in the brain but not 100% As the brain is also controlled by a delicate balance of hormones, created in various parts of the body.
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| Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:53 pm |
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GanjaGuru
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Theboss wrote: I do believe that it rests in the brain but not 100% As the brain is also controlled by a delicate balance of hormones, created in various parts of the body. Not really... But it is altered by them but it can also be altered by other peoples hormones (pheromones). They do it very much like drugs do it.
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