I agree with zero, but I do think that a bit more open education would be good.
Like most people out there are hardly better then dogs they walk O.o

Yes, but then we should first improve our current education, in order for them to actually learn something other than how to learn stuff from a book

Funny how people always select one single piece out of an entire list and cling to it, debating that one single item... forgetting all the other items. This is exactly how religions which started as one single group got so split up. Would you rather the term "Every single person who's ever been on Jerry Springer" instead of "stupid people" be used? In the end, it's the same thing.

If I may point out that you are the one that changed the subject from parenting license to IQ selection, which was then discussed and rejected for now
Also other selection criteria have been rejected in my opinion, since the personality of a child cannot be predicted by way of it's parents yet and we do need a lot of different personalities in order to have a good running society
So selecting who is to have a child and who isn't is not a very good idea if you ask me

A parenting license... To me it sounds too much like a way to make people think something that benefits the people in power, it's something that can be misused too easily for me to fully support it, though some selection might be reasonable, although on what and to what level is something I haven't figured out yet

Also, I have to admit that I myself have long wanted something like MENSA-island or the likes where only people with an IQ of over 130 can enter. But the problem with that is that all the [$#@!] jobs would have to be done by highly intelligent people who would hate their life and probably go mad.
There are all kinds of people and all kinds of jobs to be done, so everyone has his place in society.

The main problem these days is that we have to many low/no educated people.
Or atleast thats how I see it

Yes, there are very few high educated and highly intelligent people around, or there is no room for them.
So it would indeed be pleasant if there were more smart people around, making intelligent decisions in politics etcetera. I think that it would make a difference, but we can't really do more than wish and try to contribute as much as we possibly can ourselves

Where in there do I single out IQ? It is only 20% of that list. :p
My entire point (see original post) was that in lieu of licenses, sterilization would be preferable. The subject was not changed at all.

@TheBoss MENSA Island... that's pretty funny. I think we had one of those way back. It was called Atlantis. ... erm... or was it Ireland before the invention of whiskey?

Ok, I missed that - I didn't look back far enough - but sterilization doesn't seem preferable to me, since it is very hard to predict what kind of child will be produced by two parents, so in that case: let them reproduce, but have someone else raise the child, that would mean keeping the advantage of the extra forms of intellect in a society, but still ensuring a good education for every child
Though parent licenses are way too easy to abuse for political goals, so I'm against it entirely (sterilization is also quite easy to misuse as a government)

Any form of control is going to be abused by those who are placed 'in control'. Every test has shown that. Our government used sterilization practices, the same way the Nazis did, on "undesirables" for decades. It was supposed to be officially stopped in the lat 50s, but actually carried on in some institutions until the mid 60s.

And that is exactly why I am against controlling who is allowed to reproduce and who isn't
I am not against ensuring a good education for children though, so I can imagine that a parenting license might help, but only if the system were to be made in such a way to make abuse virtually impossible. But still then it is hard to decide what is a good education and what isn't, so perhaps it is better not to try to regulate this at all, except then by making standards for schools

Yup, you run into that problem any time government is involved... public schools are a great example.
While we all lament how the public school systems are degrading, I look back on them when I was in elementary school. Here are a few "fun facts" our teachers told us... I am not making these up. These were actually told to us throughout elementary school.

"The great wall of China was built in 1947 by the communist Chinese to keep the republican Chinese from escaping"
"WWI started because the kaiser of Germany was assassinated"
"Jesus was the only man ever nailed to a cross. Everyone else was tied to them"
"In WWII the Germans only killed Jews" No one else was ever mentioned.
"Van Gogh cut off his ear to send to a prostitute he was in love with"

It wasn't until high school that the lies changed.

I could go on for hours with the lies spread by public school teachers. The problem with the whole system incorporated by society is that it doesn't take into account the 10% rule. 10% of soldiers do the fighting. 10% of people are capable of leading. 10% etc. This means that 90% of those raising kids most likely shouldn't be. So how is this fixed? Licensing wouldn't work. I propose the sterilization because we are over populated. To fix the species, we need to make education better. This flat out ain't gonna happen. Why? because only 10% of the people who vote for the changes are qualified. ;)

Yes, but sterilizing people to prevent overpopulation doesn't seem right to me. People should be allowed a free choice whether or not they want to reproduce. Forcing them would lead only to greater evils, ending up in the next dictatorship.

And yes, education was worse but that's still no excuse to stop improving schools. They can still become better, so I think we should do everything we can to make them better. After all, they generate the people that will make the future. Better make sure these people are as sensible as possible

I agree 100% that we need to improve our schools. I just know it isn't going to happen. Even our higher education system here in the states is doomed. Why? HERE is a shot of some of our current professors, as they were before they infiltrated the colleges around the country.

Want a better education system? Pay professional athletes 25k a year and pay teachers and soldiers the big bucks. Then we would attract the caliber of educator we need to make the system better.

I agree, an elementary school teacher in Holland gets about 1100 a month. A garbage man gets 900. And people who are on government support also get round that sum.

So I really am not so suprised that noone wants to be a teacher.

Yes, teacher should be paid better. But we should also change the way teacher's teach into a way which stimulates free and independent thought more. As soon as we have more people thinking independently, crime rate will probably go down and most of all, our government will probably stop being formed by idiots like Geert Wilders