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An original piece for this site.... It contains my views etc.

I have worked out the statistical probability of human survival over the next 50 years. Suffice to say at this juncture things don't look very bright at all. We are the only species I am aware of that will with near certainty destroy itself. The good news is with enough support we can change the world and save billions of lives in the coming years but we need to act. Without support putting together a survival plan for our species will be tough and without it as well I am left with one clear option as grim as it is and that is genocide.

If people cannot work together to save humanity than depopulation must occur so that humanity as a species survives till the 22nd century. Is what I propose a crime and one of the more evil ones? Yes but it is a necessary evil and a last resort if we can't pull together. If we do survive the threat of ourselves our next big threat besides Global Warming will be the singularity we create which will inevitably turn on us, this is a threat we can't stop after it happens and can only be prevented by preventing a singularity.... A singularity btw is a term used for machines that become fully autonomous and make copies of themselves evolving with each new copy endlessly for all time. Think human evolution just about a few billion times faster.

Global Warming
Self Extinction
Singularity

These 3 things are our biggest threats.... I am aware of spacial threats as well however the statistical probability of an asteroid or comet hitting us is quite small.


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GanjaGuru wrote:
Global Warming
Self Extinction
Singularity

You forgot to add 'greed'.


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Transfuse wrote:
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Global Warming
Self Extinction
Singularity

You forgot to add 'greed'.


Greed is not a threat, it is a part of the human condition.... It is however at the root of all three of these problems as people turn to pieces of paper and metal to save them it becomes apparent greed is a major factor in these threats. We are all greedy because we are all human however what makes people like me vary from people like Mao, Hitler and Lenin is that I see the value of mortal life and they didn't.


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Regardless. Global Warming is just a theory, and it's a scam too, in my opinion. Self extinction is highly possible, but not probable in the next 10 million years, by which time the Sun would've already been turned into a gigantic red star.

Singularity might happen, sooner than 5 million years (which is the time slot allocated for the Sun to turn into a gigantic red star) but I'm pretty sure that by then we would've colonized other planets, so even if one planet gets dominated, others might not.

All in all, I'm pretty sure humankind will not fall prey to all the crap that we think will happen.

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Definition of 'Singularity':
1. The quality or condition of being singular.
2. A trait marking one as distinct from others; a peculiarity.
3. Something uncommon or unusual.
4. Astrophysics. A point in space-time at which gravitational forces cause matter to have infinite density and infinitesimal volume, and space and time to become infinitely distorted.
5. Mathematics. A point at which the derivative does not exist for a given function but every neighborhood of which contains points for which the derivative exists. Also called singular point.


If there's something that could happen to Earth in less than a million years, it's Venus hitting it.


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The sun will turn into a gigantic red star in around 4 billion years, not 10 million. o0

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The sun will turn into a gigantic red star in around 4 billion years, not 10 million. o0

5 million years, actually. Or so I've heard.


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GanjaGuru wrote:
An original piece for this site.... It contains my views etc.

I have worked out the statistical probability of human survival over the next 50 years. Suffice to say at this juncture things don't look very bright at all. We are the only species I am aware of that will with near certainty destroy itself. The good news is with enough support we can change the world and save billions of lives in the coming years but we need to act. Without support putting together a survival plan for our species will be tough and without it as well I am left with one clear option as grim as it is and that is genocide.

If people cannot work together to save humanity than depopulation must occur so that humanity as a species survives till the 22nd century. Is what I propose a crime and one of the more evil ones? Yes but it is a necessary evil and a last resort if we can't pull together. If we do survive the threat of ourselves our next big threat besides Global Warming will be the singularity we create which will inevitably turn on us, this is a threat we can't stop after it happens and can only be prevented by preventing a singularity.... A singularity btw is a term used for machines that become fully autonomous and make copies of themselves evolving with each new copy endlessly for all time. Think human evolution just about a few billion times faster.

Global Warming
Self Extinction
Singularity

These 3 things are our biggest threats.... I am aware of spacial threats as well however the statistical probability of an asteroid or comet hitting us is quite small.


finally someone with the same opinion
depopulation IS a solution

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GanjaGuru wrote:
Global Warming
Self Extinction
Singularity

You forgot to add 'greed'.

or in other words *capitalism*
rich ppl and money are needed in some way the thing is they allways want more AND keep it for themselves most of the times

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GanjaGuru wrote:
An original piece for this site.... It contains my views etc.

I have worked out the statistical probability of human survival over the next 50 years. Suffice to say at this juncture things don't look very bright at all. We are the only species I am aware of that will with near certainty destroy itself. The good news is with enough support we can change the world and save billions of lives in the coming years but we need to act. Without support putting together a survival plan for our species will be tough and without it as well I am left with one clear option as grim as it is and that is genocide.

If people cannot work together to save humanity than depopulation must occur so that humanity as a species survives till the 22nd century. Is what I propose a crime and one of the more evil ones? Yes but it is a necessary evil and a last resort if we can't pull together. If we do survive the threat of ourselves our next big threat besides Global Warming will be the singularity we create which will inevitably turn on us, this is a threat we can't stop after it happens and can only be prevented by preventing a singularity.... A singularity btw is a term used for machines that become fully autonomous and make copies of themselves evolving with each new copy endlessly for all time. Think human evolution just about a few billion times faster.

Global Warming
Self Extinction
Singularity

These 3 things are our biggest threats.... I am aware of spacial threats as well however the statistical probability of an asteroid or comet hitting us is quite small.


finally someone with the same opinion
depopulation IS a solution

Transfuse wrote:
GanjaGuru wrote:
Global Warming
Self Extinction
Singularity

You forgot to add 'greed'.

or in other words *capitalism*
rich ppl and money are needed in some way the thing is they allways want more AND keep it for themselves most of the times


I love capitalism... Here in Canada it has allowed me to create my own little empire. I am not against capitalism, how could I be as a business owner? I just do not believe that everything needs to be capitalized on. Greed does not equal capitalism but it does however lead to corporate fascism which is where the USA is right now. Capitalism = progress.

Depopulation is a last resort and risky for me to pull off if I have too. I have been watching humanity for years but never have I seen the species so close to extinction, I shouldn't get involved but my future now also hangs in the balance because if humanity dies than I have no one to watch over and my reason for existing ends.

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it harvests greed imo

but overpopulation is a big problem
as we will need more resources and thats not possible to maintain for long
cos the problem will get bigger if we dont act

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By the time we'll overpopulate, either Earth will look like Coruscant, or there would already be colonized planets. Overpopulation is the least of humanity's worries.


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The sun will turn into a gigantic red star in around 4 billion years, not 10 million. o0

5 million years, actually. Or so I've heard.

4-5 BILLION.

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Question: Will the sun ever burn up?

Answer: When the sun has fused all of the hydrogen atoms into helium atoms
it will be finished. It would then start to cool and expand. Unfortunately
we think it would expand out beyond earth's orbit. We would be cooked.
This is not expected to happen for millions of years. It is hard
to think that humans will still be around. We will have left or
may not have survived. Nothing to worry about for the next several
million years.


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Transfuse wrote:
By the time we'll overpopulate, either Earth will look like Coruscant, or there would already be colonized planets. Overpopulation is the least of humanity's worries.


Got news for you.... The real world is not like Star Wars.

In regards to population we will not be capable of interplanetary colonization for at least another 100 years. So in the mean time we need to solve problems regarding over population.

Earth is at the breaking point, we simply can't produce enough food, medication and natural resources to sustain more than 7 billion and at 9 billion look forward to mass extinction. If over population was the least of our worries I would not have mentioned it.

In regards to the sun.... By the time it explodes humanity will no longer exist.

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Transfuse wrote:
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Question: Will the sun ever burn up?

Answer: When the sun has fused all of the hydrogen atoms into helium atoms
it will be finished. It would then start to cool and expand. Unfortunately
we think it would expand out beyond earth's orbit. We would be cooked.
This is not expected to happen for millions of years. It is hard
to think that humans will still be around. We will have left or
may not have survived. Nothing to worry about for the next several
million years.

Lol, do you know how MUCH hydrogen atoms there are in the sun? It will take about another 4.5 billion years for it to burn up.

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And I suppose you know that because you're Nostradamus?


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