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I found this article on this forum http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/sh ... hp?t=87476
Lets see what you think.

The video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMINSD7MmT4
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I get flak about believing certain things, so ill ask a few quick questions.

If there is no atmosphere in space, no wind on the moon, etc.... why does the flag move in the video ?

Why are the same backgrounds used for various pictures that NASA say are from areas that are supposed to be miles away from each other ?

Why are the shadows in some of the pictures going in different directions when NASA claims that there was no exterior source of light, except the sun ?

Why was the surface of the moon described as being like powder/dust... yet a rocket landed on the moon and the pictures show ZERO dirt/dust on the landers footpads ?

Why are there no stars visible in the pictures, the sky is supposed to be super clear if you are on the moon.

Why havent we gone back to the moon since the 70's ?

Whatever happened with colonizing the moon ?

If the lunar lander has a huge rocket that thrusts down as you land on the moon... why is there no blast crater under the lander on the pictures shown by NASA ?
Its impossible for the Lander to land without making a crater, specially if how they say that the moon's surface is like powder/dust.

How is it that we can hear the astronouts talking while they are approaching the moon... live rockets are burning at the same time, there should be no way to make out the astronauts words, yet he is heard clearly.

When the rocket lifts up from the moon... why is there no exhaust coming out of the rocket ?
And no dust cloud either, specially with how the moon is supposed to be covered by powder fine dust ?

This is just the tip of things... there is soo much more information than this.

Watch this special that aired on TV. Its actually a great documentary about this stuff.

They have a NASA spokesperson there and whenever they ask him to refute the claims... all he can say is that they are bogus and from crazy people and not worth the trouble trying to prove them wrong.

If these claims are bogus... why not shut everyone up and give explanations that will refute those claims ?

If you landed on the moon, and someone said to you that its a lie... would you swear on the bible that you did ?

In this documentary a journalist goes around asking astronauts to swear that they landed on the moon.
Most would not do it.
And the two that do end up agreeing to swear on the bible, then go and say that they basically dont believe in god/bible anyway.... therefore making their swear on the bible is meaningless.

The documentary is preceded by a cut of some of the astronauts reactions.
Its very nice because we get to hear direct interviews with a lot of the astronauts that went to the moon.
They all start out very happy to be interviewed, until they start being asked questions they arent supposed to talk about.
They arent very happy after that
One guy actually starts sweating profusely... kinda funny.

Its also funny watching them contradict each other.

The rest of the astronauts either cussed out the guy, kicked him, or punched him out.
Buzz Aldrin socked him in the face pretty good... old dude's still got a mean right hook.
Some even refused thousands of dollars in funding to their favorite charity if they simply swore on the bible that they went to the moon.

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we were on the moon i have no doubt abouy that!


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If the lunar lander has a huge rocket that thrusts down as you land on the moon... why is there no blast crater under the lander on the pictures shown by NASA ?
Its impossible for the Lander to land without making a crater, specially if how they say that the moon's surface is like powder/dust.

thats a really good one, it made me wonder

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especially with the low gravity.

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I reckon there's a pretty good chance that the US didn't land on the moon. They have pretty good reasons for faking it after all, propaganda was a major part of the Space Race post WW2.


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i am convinced that they did land on the moon but when reading all these counter arguments i do doubt it a little

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yeh, mythbusters even made a moonlanding show :)

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yea but they didnt prove this one

If the lunar lander has a huge rocket that thrusts down as you land on the moon... why is there no blast crater under the lander on the pictures shown by NASA ?
Its impossible for the Lander to land without making a crater, specially if how they say that the moon's surface is like powder/dust.

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how can they do a thing like that... there is no spot on earth where you can do something like that.
Somethings you can do in water, but not this

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A studio.

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a studio with almost no gravity ?
Comeon that makes a big difference

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Why would they need almost no gravity to take a bunch of fake pictures?

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to test the myth... that was what we where talking about...

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yet they do it in most sci-fi movies who arent shot in space either

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I never thought about it....but you have me wondering now o.O


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